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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 1, 2010 3:24pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

So, are you saying that you object to the fact that the surviving members of the Grateful Dead, who have given you so much over the years, are at least comfortably off? Do you pause to wonder why Phil Lesh, who will be 70 in a few days, is still on the road? Is he just very very greedy? Or are you, heaven forfend, just very stupid?

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Mar 1, 2010 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

I don't think that's what he was saying at all Rob. I took it just as an observation

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

It does look like Phil in enjoying the touring. Looked happy to me. But I would also agree that there is more to the picture. Other motivations such as money would surly play a roll.

I also feel that that the "Phil Lesh and Friends" as a better band than "Further". Heck I liked "the Dead" better.

That all said I was not in the meeting don't know the boys personal...so it all hearsay... wish them well

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:57pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

I think we have something to agree on here - I've said before that I regret that Phil gave up playing with Larry Campbell and Jackie Greene to join the Furthur circus. That was a great Phil and Friends, no doubt in my mind.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 6:30pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

eye to eye on this rob! I wish I could go see that formation!

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Poster: cowboyth24 Date: Mar 1, 2010 5:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

I don't see the money aspect as being prevalent at all. In fact, after seeing "The Dead " in an arena in the spring, I was thrilled to see them in a school gym,(Cornell) last month, and look forward to seeing them this summer in a castle setting and a museum setting. If the $$$$$$ was so important wouldn't they just play the shells and domes, and not be so creative with their choices?

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:28pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Rob stop being a Dick. No I don't think that I love Phil I have seen Phil recently and payed for quite a few tickets for my crew. I don't feel ripped off nor have any beef with Phil. (bobby well that is fish, barrel =shotgun) (I'm mostly kidding rob so calm down)

Are you suggesting that Phil is broke? I think he enjoys paying and it's a lifestyle thing... I HOPE!


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

"Are you suggesting that Phil is broke? I think he enjoys paying..."

Groovy, you need to work that spellcheck thing.


Goodnight, Irene.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

LOL, that is a funny typo! come bro laugh at me and if you feel kind with me!

For the record I'm dyslexic and can not type to save my life. The curse of being a visual artist...it least I'm not starving.

I'm not blown away by further, but was considering a trip up to SF for the B day bash. If only I had more time....

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Well I can maybe string a few words together but if not for the good graces of others I probably would be starving - the curse of being an asshole :-)

But come on, groover, at least admit I can argue and we'll leave it there...

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 5:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

you can argue...

Good point if I did not have allies I also would be starving... any good asshole knows this.... :)

This post was modified by groovernut on 2010-03-02 01:00:36

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Poster: user unknown Date: Mar 1, 2010 3:45pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Rob, as I see it(and I may add that I have myopia in one eye, hyperopia in the other and astigmatism in both)there are three possible reasons behind Phil's continued touring. First, and God forbid this is his reason, is that he simply needs the money. Then again, as you said, he may be "very, very greedy". I don't think that is the case and, in fact, would be quite disappointed to discover that to be his reason. And thirdly, and this is the theory I tend to embrace, is the Phil just loves both the music and the fans and truly enjoys life as a touring musician. Can a man ask for anymore from life than to make a very good living by doing what he truly loves???


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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:21pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Bill - we're in agreement on this. I do believe that the primary reason Phil is still touring is that he loves what he is doing and believes (rightly) that he still has a great deal to offer. His selfless promotion of the Grateful Dead legacy through a legion of talented musicians from Jimmy Herring and Warren Haynes to Jackie Greene and Larry Campbell is a matter of record. It was the idea that he was 'cashing in' that I found objectionable. The suggestion I made that he might be greedy was purely rhetorical and not something I hold to for an instant.

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Poster: DeadRed1971 Date: Mar 1, 2010 3:58pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

As someone who's seen Phil play quite a bit over the past year with The Dead and Furthur, I have never seen him happier than he is nowadays. To think he's going on 70. He looks so young and vibrant on stage every night.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 1, 2010 7:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Do recall he's got someone else's liver, and given his avowed treatment of his own, I think it safe to say that it was his fame and fortune that assured he landed one. Also, he rec'd the absolute BEST treatment for his prostate cancer. I mean something that 99.9% would not have access to...I speak of these things from first hand experience with the health care profession, and the understanding of just how difficult it can be for those without the access...no knock on Phil for taking advantage.

I think it safe to say, money isn't everything, but it sure helps.

[again, don't get me wrong, I have no grudge against Phil; he's always been my fav member of the band in many respects...but, it would be silly to ignore the simple reality of what he has been able to do as the member of a million dollar industrial complex. The only reason I bring this up is that the band/band members are a much more complex entity than our simple perception of them [60s bohemians of amaterialistic disposition]]

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Poster: ringolevio Date: Mar 2, 2010 5:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

I haven't seen them live but I think it's very obvious it makes Phil happy.

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Poster: deadpolitics Date: Mar 2, 2010 10:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Just saw Phil and Bobby with Furthur the weekend before last. His playing was very adventurous and symphonic as ever... especially on King Soloman's Marbles, Dark Star, and The Other One. The jams were unique and fresh as ever!

When he came out for the donor rap I could feel that he was very emotionally moved by the experience of performing that music. He is truly grateful for sharing this with all of us.

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Poster: groovernut Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Hey I'll agree with you I think he likes to play. There is still much money generated by the band than none of thee guys need to worry about it that much.
I wish the formations where better and more original, but it a tough act to follow....

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Poster: cush212 Date: Mar 1, 2010 4:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Another Anti-Taping Story!

Haven't been there in real life for a few years, but I tend to go with the flow that Phil just loves playing the music... Not sure if I've heard what ticket prices are going for nowadays though...

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